So I found a 750iL (E38) at an auction

Kinja'd!!! "Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura" (sundowne36)
12/16/2013 at 00:04 • Filed to: None

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Facelifted model, with the small GPS option. Looks fine until the moment I started the car - usual starter sound accompanied by a clunk? If that wasn't bad, the idle wasn't smooth - and the tachometer wasn't working. It got smooth later on, but.... Er, I was hesitant on bidding on it.

Was it a good idea not to?


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Kinja'd!!! Boxer_4 > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
12/16/2013 at 00:10

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Didn't some of those use an ECU per cylinder head? It was probably for the best not to bid.


Kinja'd!!! The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
12/16/2013 at 00:10

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Even if it ran fine it would probably still be a good idea.


Kinja'd!!! Battery Tender Unnecessary > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
12/16/2013 at 00:22

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Run, don't walk, away. Father had a E38 750iL it was a great car but 2-4x as many things to go wrong with that V12 just based on parts alone. Remember that even though it's cheap now, repair prices still reflect a car that cost $92k in 1996 (over $130k in today's money). Anyone in the market for a 750 shouldn't jump on anything but a turbine smooth engine.


Kinja'd!!! Battery Tender Unnecessary > Boxer_4
12/16/2013 at 00:23

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They did. While they were SOHC and two-valve the rest is still as complex as any other V12.


Kinja'd!!! EL_ULY > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
12/16/2013 at 00:26

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I'll just say, be prepared for the worst if you're rhinking of owning it for a couple years. Not saying its a money pit, be it's definitely a possibility no doubt in my mind. If it's just a run about 2nd car, then by all means proceed at the right price though very cautiously


Kinja'd!!! offroadkarter > Boxer_4
12/16/2013 at 00:27

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they WHAT!?

Wow, I like those cars a ton, and I know they are maintenance monsters, but god dammit BMW some things don't need to be that complex.


Kinja'd!!! Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > offroadkarter
12/16/2013 at 00:33

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Could be worse - you could have to deal with Dual VANOS.


Kinja'd!!! offroadkarter > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
12/16/2013 at 00:35

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I wouldn't wish that even on the worst of my enemies


Kinja'd!!! Boxer_4 > offroadkarter
12/16/2013 at 00:53

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Their V12s of the time were effectively two I6s joined at the crank. I guess the solution of two ECUs that needed to communicate with each other seemed like a good solution at the time. It was actually a nifty idea, because if one ECU had an issue or failed, you basically had a very heavy 6 cylinder, but the engine would still run. This proved to be very good planning on BMW's part, the Motec ECUs they used had a tendency to fail on occasion. Luckily, usually only one would fail at a time.


Kinja'd!!! M54B30 > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
12/16/2013 at 01:04

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Good call to avoid it. They're maintenance hogs and moreso than most BMWs of that age. If it's not 100%, not worth the risk. Also, the small (4:3) GPS sucks and looks 35 years old. 16:9 or nada.